An Interview With Eddie Ricardo of Cobra BJJ
I met Eddie Ricardo a couple years ago when he still taught Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu classes out of Saekson Janjira’s Muay Thai gym. He now runs Cobra Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in East Plano, where I visited him for an interview last week.
There was a class taking place when I walked in through the open door. Rap music was bumping out of the PA system, scoring the students as they searched for submissions and jockeyed for position. I left my shoes far away from the mats, and made my way towards a powerfully built man with a baby in his arms. Eddie Ricardo shook my hand and introduced me to his three-month-old son, Maxwell. He is a friendly man who always wears a smile; a counterpoint to the fact that Eddie is one of the most decorated grapplers in the metroplex with one of the most legitimate black belts you can get in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
Tell me about yourself.
My name is Eddie Ricardo. I was born in Brazil, and I’ve been training martial arts since I was five years old. I started in karate; my mom put me and my brother in karate. Brazilian karate is not as commercial as it is in America, and people really beat the heck out of each other in class. In America, it’s watered down, kind of commercialized, rather than really founded on respect and integrity.
Growing up in Brazil, there’s much more freedom. And one of the things I think is natural for boys to do is grapple around, try to size each other, and say, “Who’s the strongest?” So my mom put us in karate. Then I started doing capoeira, a form of dance that the slaves used to do because they couldn’t fight. They said they were dancing but they were training this martial art… and it’s really a popular sport in Brazil. I really like it because of the acrobatic moves you learn. There’s not really ‘competitions,’ because it’s considered more of a street fight. But once they were slaves they used to put blades in between their toes in order to cut—they didn’t punch because it would look too much like a fight to their lords. I’ve seen capoeira fights, but it’s more of a sport, more acrobatic.
Capoeira… shows you how to have loose hips, which really helps you fight. The orthodox fighting style is, you keep your base leg behind you, so the power comes from your foot to your hips, to your shoulder to your wrist. Capoeira helps because when you do something out of the orthodox, you can surprise people, like with a spinning backfist. Like, you know, Anderson Silva knows capoeira. It’s kind of like yoga in a sense, once you get loose, it helps your fighting.
Speaking of which, how do you know Anderson Silva?
The Nogueira brothers, I’ve trained with them for a long time. Rodrigo Minotauro Nogueira, he was a friend of a friend, so I trained with him and his trainers. Him and Anderson—they used to be on rival teams, but they never had any rivalry. Anderson Silva used to be part of Chute Box, and Nogueira used to be part of Brazilian Top Team. Chute Boxe was known for really good stand-up fighters, and Brazilian Top Team was really known for good ground fighters, from Carlson Gracie. So we’re part of one of the best teams in the world, the Nogueira Team, or the Black House team.
Who was your BJJ teacher?
My teacher, Carlos Machado, who is a cousin of the Gracies—the guy is amazing, been training since he was four years old. He was the nephew to the founder of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu… the guy is just a bible of Jiu-Jitsu. He’s here in Dallas, so it was a great opportunity to train with him. He’s phenomenal, not only in jiu-jitsu but as a human being.
Do you do any strength and conditioning for jiu-jitsu?
It all depends on the person. It’s just things you understand by watching. Some people have to get bigger, some have to get smaller. You see, the guys like Jose Aldo can last for a long time because their heart doesn’t have to pump so much blood, because he’s smaller.
How is Mixed Martial Arts perceived in Brazil?
It was dying, to be honest with you. You have to understand, in order for Jiu-Jitsu to even have a reputation in Brazil, they would put news in the newspaper: “Come to Gracie Academy if you want to get your teeth broken, your arm snapped,” you understand? They were challenging everyone. So a mom wouldn’t want to put her kids there. But now that they see people coming out of poverty and becoming famous and rich, it’s going to go back up.
It is a rich man’s sport. Jiu-jitsu is a more elite sport than boxing. In Brazil they say, if you are poor, go to Muay Thai or boxing. Jiu-jitsu is about $130, $160 per month and then there’s the gi, the equipment.
Everybody needs to be a little clever in fighting. It’s a mental game, as well as physical.
When I started doing jiu-jitsu, I thought that if I got stronger, muscular, it would solve my problems. It would give me confidence; no one would mess with me. But after a long time, after my teacher, Carlos Machado, I understood that if you got stronger mentally, you can dominate more people than if you were stronger physically. Mentally, you can control legions of people. These guys, with their words, with their knowledge, they control nations. The mind controls the body.
